Kuzbass Cup at Shakhtar; Football Federation of the Kemerovo Region

Kuzbass Cup at Shakhtar! Prokopyevskiy Shakhtar became the winner of the Kuzbass Football Cup among amateur football clubs in 2012, having won 4:2 in the final match over

Kuzbass Cup at Shakhtar!

Prokopyevskiy Shakhtar became the winner of the Kuzbass Football Cup among amateur football clubs in 2012, having won 4:2 over Zorya-SUEK from Leninsk-Kuznetsky in the final match.

Zorya-SUEK – Shakhtar – 2:4 (2:3)
Goals: Lobatnev, 22 (0:1). Amelianov, 28 (1:1). Lobatnev, 35 (1:2). Gorelov, 40 (1:3). Amelianov, 41 (2:3). Lobatnev, 90 (2:4).
Zarya-SUEK: Kozhekin, Shubenkov, Fomin, Dremin, Garaev, Melekhov (Cherkashin, 46), Kusakin, Golovko, Konshin, Amelianov, Pushkin (Mironov, 66).
Miner: Chekletsov, Grishin, Novitsky, Sizov, Sedykh, Noskov (Skorobogatov, 90), Schwab, Lyange, Khlebnikov (Shamsutdinov, 70. Tatarnikov, 90), Gorelov, Lobatnev.
Punishments: Dremin – Khlebnikov, Lobatnev, Gorelov, Shamsutdinov, Lyange, Noskov (warnings).
Judges: Lapkin, Yukhatov (Kemerovo), Nadymov (Novokuznetsk).
September 14th. Leninsk-Kuznetsky. Shakhtar Stadium. 1500 spectators.

The home team started the meeting more actively and by the end of the first fifteen minutes created several dangerous chances at the Shakhtar goal, however, two Ivans – Kusakin and Amelianov – failed to hit the target, and Vasily Konshin's powerful shot was parried by the prokopchan's goalkeeper Maxim Chekletsov. At this, the starting impulse of Leninsk-Kuznechan faded slightly, and closer to the middle of the half, the game leveled off, and soon Shakhtar began to strain the defense of Leninsk-Kuznechan over and over again.
The first wake-up call for Zarya-SUEK was a free kick by Valery Lyange, after which only skillful heading by Stanislav Garaev saved the hosts. And the next standard of Prokopchan became effective. In the 22nd minute of the match, the same Lyange performed a jeweler's corner kick from the left flank, which was closed by Yuri Lobatnev at the far post with a clear header.
The return goal in the performance of Leninsk-Kuznechan was not long in coming. In the 28th minute, Yegor Sedykh, the defender of Prokopchan, broke the rules against Amelianov at the very line of the penalty area. And Amelianov himself circled both the wall and the opponent's goalkeeper with a beautiful blow – 1:1.
Having conceded a goal, Shakhtar further increased the pressure on the Zarya-SUEK goal. And the result was not long in coming. On the 35th minute, Andrey Noskov threw a long out on the right flank of his team's attack, followed by a transfer of the ball to the left flank, where Lobatnev received it, covered it with his body, and then, moving closer to the center with a sweeping blow, sent the ball very close to the bar, not giving not a single chance for the hosts' goalkeeper Vladimir Kozhekin. And after another five minutes forward Aleksey Gorelov punished the Leninsk-Kuznetsk defenders for their indiscretion, ran one on one with the goalkeeper and confidently shot the gate – 1:3.
It seemed that such a turn of events should demoralize the hosts. However, in the very next attack of the hosts, Amelianov put a spectacular end to it, entering Shakhtar's penalty area at speed from the right flank and narrowing the gap in the score to a minimum with an accurate shot, sending the teams to the break with the score 3:2 in favor of the guests.

The second half was started again by Zorya-SUEK players more actively, only Shakhtar's defensive formations acted more harmoniously, preventing the hosts from creating real sharpness at their goal. Nevertheless, in one of the moments, Sergei Pushkin managed to confuse Chekletsov, who knocked the ball right on the leg of Amelyanov, who could not dispose of such a gift, and sent the ball past the goal from the corner of the penalty area.
A few minutes later, the goalkeeper of Zarya-SUEK Kozhekin made a similar mistake at his goal, not having time to catch the ball after a partner's discount. The goalkeeper was robbed by Lobatnev, who managed to hang the ball into the goalkeeper's area, where Gorelov did not use a 100% scoring chance, who missed his head from the most advantageous situation. A few minutes later Gorelov had another good opportunity for a goal, but the ball after his shot from the penalty area went over the crossbar. And soon the crossbar itself took the blow after a corner, and thus saved the hosts from the right, it seemed, goal.
At the end of the match, the inferior Zorya-SUEK became active again, however, Shakhtar also managed to rebuild and play more carefully in order to hit the winning result. Things never got to the point of particular sharpness at the gates of the guests, but the Prokopchane, on the contrary, managed to put a winning point. Already in stoppage time by the referee Valeriy Lyange's right flank pass ended with an accurate pass into the penalty area, where the hero of the match Yuriy Lobatnev turned out to be the quickest of all, scoring a hat-trick and bringing Shakhtar a 4-2 victory.

Prokopyevskiy Shakhtar won the Kuzbass Cup for the first time, clearly proving that now they are one of the strongest teams in Kuzbass! The last time a team from Prokopyevsk won the Kuzbass Cup was in 2007, when this trophy went to Rudnik, and in total Prokopyevsk footballers won the Regional Cup seven times.

54 comments to “Shakhtar Kuzbass Cup!” ”

No problems, the goal was to focus on the fact that Sergei came from youth football and, you see, required a certain coaching refinement to the level of adult football. And, for sure, the style of play of the youthful “Motor” was different from the sparkling, beautiful, combinational football of “Dawn”, which Sergey had to fit into.

The new flagship, I still thought that 71-0 speaks not about the level of the tournament, but about the level of preparation of the reserve. If you remember, from that year the championship began to be played in the club standings (adults + youths) and the Prokopyevsk Motor became the winner.The team of Oktyabrskaya Highway became the fourth among the boys. Yes, Oktyabrskaya was the adult champion there for three years, but Motor, in addition to the club championship, won two cups in those years (1985, 1986). A sh. The October of that time, after all, was the prototype of the current Prokopyevsk Miner. The team included Kemerovo residents: Khusnutdinov, Kokhanchik, Smirnov, Nikonov, Rykov, Galiev (who had already achieved success with the Kemerovo Zarya and Technolog) …, Abramov from Belovet, Durnovtsev from Prokopchan … So it’s still not worth associating her with the successes of Zarya. From Oktyabrskaya, in my opinion, only Smorodnikov then played in Zara.
But this is so, not as an argument – against, but just like to remember the affairs of bygone days … (all this is not about the current state of affairs)

Veteran. And one more thing, so that there are no blank spots left for you in the history of Zorya.
After meeting with the strike committee, I added a clause to the protocol of requirements for the Government about the inclusion, contrary to the Regulations (not according to the sports principle), of the team in the 2nd league. I went to Moscow with a copy of the protocol for a meeting with Koloskov. No luck – at that time he was abroad, so the reception took place at Tukmanov in the presence of Kavazashvili. They decided to allow the team to compete. There were no requests for money to finance the club in that document. For the first two years, we lived very modestly on transfers from Leninskugol through the Kolchuginskaya mine. By 1992, with the release of the team to a higher level of the tournament, funds were clearly not enough. And then the idea of ​​“coal plenipotentiaries of Russia” arose, and with it I went to Moscow to meet with the head of Rossugol, Malyshev Yu.N. He managed to convince and was lucky again – he had a former player from Shakhtar Donetsk on his board of directors. He most zealously supported our proposal. Believe me, we didn’t swim in big money again – it was just a reliable and stable source of financing.

Veteran. Judging by the style and literacy of writing, you received a good education in Novosibirsk. But it confuses me that at such a young student age you were already privy to all the transfer secrets of Chkalovets. Lord, where does all this utter information about the transition of Zlobin come from. His game for Novosibirsk was impressive – fast, cheerful, assertive, left-footed haw. But in Leninsk, unfortunately, he did not play: injuries, the ideology of the team's game concept did not fit. Therefore, he stayed with us for less than a year, although in terms of human qualities he is quite a decent and responsible guy. So – no fabulous money was paid for it, but only a small part of the required amount by cash, then Chkalovets was happy to go for this form of payment. Zlobin did not receive any super conditions: a regular salary, accommodation at the base and food. And he came here not for money, but with the desire to play in the company of good players.If possible, I will give advice – exaggerate the immediate past, where you are well aware, and do not use gossip and speculation. If you are really interested in some facts from the history of that Zorya, and if they do not affect the closed club information, I am ready to share it.

These are not projects, but an assessment of reality, an inventory of the existing potential. And not in any city, and this recipe is far from for everyone. It is not offered to anyone. This is the path of Leninsk, once already successfully passed. Everything has already been proven to everyone. Therefore, these are not “fairy tales” and not “dreamers”. The point is only in the desire of a potential sponsor to give money, and really not so big. By the way, the sponsor has been spending a lot on social policy for ten years every year, so the possible (and so far theoretical) expenses for a club of the 2nd or 1st league are trifling for him.
About the invented fairy tale … This is a true story. All this is doable.
About “you mislead others” – well, how many more facts, figures, names, real events are needed to convince the opponent. And everyone has their own right to admire the level of class B and the current level of football in their city, or think about tomorrow and be ready for it …

Dear Veteran!
About I'll call you dozens of names …. Let's be specific, and not well, you give and nu-nu … And do not take away from the intra-Kuzbass dispute to pupils of Siberian football. We know about Rykov from Novosibirsk, Karyukin, Starkov, Yarkin, Erokhin from Barnaul, Chepchugov from Krasnoyarsk, Nagibin, Zuev and someone else played in Siberia that memorable year … Provide specifics on the topic of discussion – on Kuzbass.
Who plays in the Premier League today from at least one city of Kuzbass? Name the names! Clubs! Minutes on the field! Who is from Prokopyevsk? Who is from Kemerovo? Who is from Novokuznetsk? Who? I don’t even take 4 goals in the RFPL championship, an assist and a goal for Turkey for the Russian national team when playing with ten men. Specifics, dear Veteran …
Whether Sapogov knew how to do something on the field by the age of 15, or he began to take his first steps in football only at the Lokomotiv school – I won’t even ask you, the site’s audience is football people and they know the obvious answer themselves.
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About the scale of the city – we are talking about the fact that this can be done if the sponsor wishes. Not about the fact that somewhere it has been done or not done, but that it is REALLY POSSIBLE IN PRACTICE. That's how it was in the 90s! The sponsor, represented by Rosugol, gave money to the team from Leninsk through Leninskugol. Today, almost all Leninskugol enterprises are owned by SUEK. So what are the obstacles, if there is a sponsor's desire? Legal? No. Which? Only desire, or unwillingness. Name the specifics, not nu-nu.
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Now about your insult, Veteran, our players and coaches. This has already been written about below: achievements, place of work, etc. Let's get specific too.
How many players from Leninsk went to the field in the starting lineup of Shakhtar play in the final match of the Kuzbass Cup and how many of your native Prokopyevsk? Which of the Prokopyev football players and coaches won so many championships of Siberia and Cups of Siberia, “silver” and “bronze” in these tournaments as they did, as you say “no one” Dremin, Shvab, Trofimov, Kozhekin, Ovchinnikov, trainers Velichkin and Kutilin. Coach Saprykin works as an assistant for the legendary Spartak Andrei Tikhonov in Sparta. Shchelokovo. Is this talking about something?
I repeat all this for the tenth time not for “parrotisms” and not in order to offend someone, but for specific examples of the “veteran” from Prokopyevsk, in order to show the void of his arguments. And if he does not consider his arguments empty, then let him call specificity. Specific names, achievements, game time at the basis, clubs.
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About the sale of the players, writing after the offer that this is a joke, I admit honestly, it was reproached. I wanted to look political correct with respect to teams that do not have such a story of transfers of the players from the Dawn to professional clubs. But there, again, the “veteran” insults, so I answer.
For “training, preparation and improvement of the skill of football player Alexei Smertin”, FC Zarya received 113 thousand euros in 2004 from Chelsea. I draw the attention of the Veteran-this is an official quote from the contract between FC Chelsea London, Great Britain and FC Zarya Leninsk-Kuznetskiy, Russia. This is to that topic, introduced with, n. Vasyutin or not a contribution to “Training, preparing and improving the skill of football player Alexei Smertin”, as well as other football players who were similar in Leninsk in the 90s. Including, by the way, Toporov from the Youth Championship of the eloquent level “71-0” (in the adult championship, the “Shakhty” Oktyabrskaya ”Leninsk-Kuznetskiy dominated, and she was the champion of the region in 1986, 1987, 1988). By the way, Zarya for Smertina received a significantly larger amount from Chelsea than Dynamo Barnaul. In the two thousandth “Zarya” received good amounts for the transition of Nechaev and Pronchin to the teams of the 1st League (2008. Dynamo Barnaul and Metallurg-Kuzbass), striker Bobryshev and goalkeeper Ageev in the team of the Tomsk Premier League Tomsk ( 2006 and 2010). With a dozen other transfers. All these are official documents.
“Not the judge” knows about the transfers of the 90s, therefore, on my part, it will not be correct to talk about the transitions of those years … I only mention, with the permission of “not the judge”, the most loud transfers: Bourdinsky to “Pearl”, Semenov and Semenov and Lemeshko in Dynamo Moscow, later death and Kormiltsev in Uralan … But mind you, Veteran, all transfers in both the 90s and 2000s were very beneficial for Dawn. Not by absolute numbers and their scale, but by percentage of increasing many times the “sales prices” relative to the “purchase price”. In the 2000s, all the players I mentioned came at all for free.Being teenagers. In this regard, the managers of today's Porto and Benfica (I will not touch the Premier League clubs) can come to learn management from S.N. Vasyutin and his diligent students in the current dawn. Therefore, in fact, I didn’t even joke at all …
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Dear Veteran, if there are specifics under your “nu-nu, then I will be happy to read the names of the Kuzbass football players in today's Premier League and the achievements of the last decade of Prokopyev football players and coaches, which will be at least close in level to“ no one needed by anyone. Leninsk-Kuznetskiy. I have an honor!

New flagship
And the player of the level of Sapogov has only given Leninsk so far.

Well, you give you at all! I can name you dozens of names of the pupils of Siberian football of other cities who played or play not only in the FNL and the Premier League, but also in the national team! And then one-none of boots appeared in history, and it was like a noise as if noise their dozen. Moreover, he is a pupil not only of Leninsk, but also by the Moscow locomotive, where he left at 14 years old. It is also unknown where he would be now if he had not left then. It turns out: when the 18-19 year-old ready-made players of the breadwinners and Smeritin arrived In Leninsk, they owe everyone to Leninsk, not Barnaul. But when at the age of 14, Sapogov drove into Moscow, he owes everything early only to Leninsk, a paradox.

3. Moreover, the scale of the city here, if we are talking about a sponsor, has a scope from Vorkuta to Primorye …

Nude … bring me at least one example, where the sponsors invested decent money in football of such a small town as Leninsk. There is no such … And how many teams from the unsuccessful centers are playing in our fnl and pl? No, but in the FNL-three. And there is no blacksmith on the verge of removal, Khimki on the verge of departure, and only the petrochemist is alive due to the fact that they are a pharmaceutical club of the thickness of Kazan.

4. “Of course, we will sell the best players. At the price of Hulk, Witzel, this is about … joke.

But I checked this joke,
And without jokes, your players, like the coaches, are not needed by anyone, unfortunately, such a level for today.

New flagship
19.09.2012 16:50

1. “About the lack of big money – they really were“ in an interference ”. Believe not to the judge – he is not lying.

But I won’t believe it. In the mid-90s, I was just studying in Novosib and, through a friend, I was close to the Chkalovets team. So, then the dawn took a malobe from them for such money and messages that he did not dream of in Novosiba. those years of Chkalovets barely made ends meet. So it is not necessary to drive about the lack of money from dawn, although they were not huge, they were, and they were much larger than in the neighboring cities of Siberia. I well remember how the issues of financing dawn They even pushed into the protocol of agreements of strikers and government, well done, of course.

2. About promising players under the noise … This is a unique talent …

He made fun of it. Yes, all the specialists working with youth always know the best players of their region from other cities.

A curious discussion turned out to be a curious …
Dawn of the 90s was certainly a phenomenon. I personally traveled with friends from Altai to Leninsk to watch their matches, the atmosphere was indescribable.
To say that ready-made players were gathered there is still not entirely correct. Having made its debut in the second division in 1990, the team did not lose only three matches out of 28. And already in 1992, with almost the same line-up (as already mentioned, adding Bokovikov and Vladimir Bogatyrev) became the first. But even if this season is not taken into account, since the best teams of Siberia and D.V. en masse they moved to the Russian first league, already next year in a dispute with all those who lost in 1990, Zorya becomes the third. The basis of that team was all those players who played in 1990 + the mentioned Bokovikov and Bogatyrev, and Zakharov, who, in my opinion, came from Angarsk.
Zorya's biggest success – 6th place in 1996 in the unified first league, of course, was already involved in much fewer Zorya players in 1990-93. There were four of them in the starting lineup in most matches: Morev, Baryshev, Ozhigov and Toporov. But the rest of the backbone of the team was not so experienced players, at least such success with his previous teams was achieved only by Vladislav Yarkin from Barnaul (1st place in the first league in 1993 with Tyumen Din-Gaz), but he came to Zarya from already from second league, from Tobolsk. Smertin was a substitute in Barnaul, Kormiltsev, more or less played at the base of Dynamo for a season and a half, but the Barnaul team did not achieve success with him (12-13th place), Musin, before that, a season in Novokuznetsk (11th place), Bogachev from Dynamo Kemerovo , from the second league… Moreover, none of these players came just before the 1996 season, so they all developed along with Zorya and grew with her. It is only fair here that the opponents assert that the pupils of the Leninist school of football were now a minority (at the base).
In defense of the Prokopyevsk school, it should be said that the young men of Prokopyevsk then played well in the regional championship and the brightest player of that Dawn, Sergei Toporov, was still a pupil of the Prokopyevsk Motor, and he began to open up not in Dawn, but much earlier. For example, in the youth championship of Kuzbass in 1987 (and the championship for young men was then held in a circular system, as it is now for adults), Prokopiev Motor became the champion, in 22 games it never lost (20 wins and two draws), nor missed a single ball ( difference 71-0), and Toporov became the team's top scorer (and third in the region). So he would most likely open up in any other team.

Dima, how much are you willing to bet in proof of the amount of 27 million you announced? If you are not ready, then do not make people laugh with such statements …

1. About the lack of big money – they really were “in tightness”. Believe Not a judge – he does not lie.
2. About promising footballers “on the sly”… This is the unique talent – ​​to see in the teenagers and reserve players of Dynamo Barnaul the future players of the national teams of Russia, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Belarus… And so far only Leninsk has given a player like Sapogov.So there are coaches who give their pupils such knowledge and skills that allow their pupils to become players of a large level.
3. Moreover, the scale of the city here, if we are talking about a sponsorship, has a scope from Vorkuta to Primorye (there was coal on Sakhalin, but sold). SUEK is a giant empire and what is the matter of the location of the club to which they can give money. In the 90s, skeptics said the same thing. Mistakers …
4. Of course, we will sell the best players. At the price of Hulk, Witzel, this is about … a joke. And seriously – there is no football player who cannot be bought. Sooner or later and Messi will buy someone …

Although, depending on what the goal is set. If the blood is needed from the nose of the 3rd league or a hopeless outsider in the 2nd league, this can be achieved with a minimum of costs. But without proper significant financing, it is simply unrealistic to count on more, since the best players here We will take care of rich clubs like hot pies, but only due to the sale of players the club to a new level still do not raise. And you don’t have to remember the muddy years of the late 80s and early 90s when the dawn appeared. The strikes were allocated for Lenin Football. And there wasn’t even such money in neighboring cities at that time. That's the whole secret. Even the clubs of the regional centers of Siberia then sat on the bulk and could not compete with a dawn that gathered all the most promising football players from all over. Siberia. I don’t say that this is bad, but it was so. Now another time. Commands of large cities can not always afford the team of the 2nd league, the fate of small cities, such as Leninsk, giving themselves But the maximum of the 2nd league is determined. How many teams in the Premier League and FNL are from the Lentless or Republican centers? Answer-three! Novokuznetsk, which is not a couple of Leninsk, and is about to withdraw from the FNL, Nizhnekamsk-Farm Club Rubin -Comands of Tolstosumov and the suburbs of Khimki, who is in the last place and the 1st contender for the departure. So, to dream of the greatness of Lenin football, but it is better, at least try, to be realistic and correctly analyze the situation.

Where do you have such data from? This is not true!

All this, alas, is unrealistic spotlights invented by you. It will not be this, when the famous Moscow torpedo is falling apart, Saturn and Moscow, when the teams of federal and regional centers breathe in the incense, you come up with your dreams, you really think that you think that you think that They came up with a know-how to create football in any city without costs? Everyone in Russia is stupid and do not understand how to create football without costs, so what? Are you the smartest? How is the classic “Blessed is who believes, who believes, soot in the world”. I came up with a fairy tale about the greatness of football Leninsk and rejoice, while you are misleading others. Let’s go to the sinful land and come to your senses, there are unrealistic and unrealistic dreams, and the level of Lenin players and coaches is where they are today, otherwise they would all be a long time ago We would not have been in demand where they are today.

The league needs 7 million to apply and the dawn has 27 million budget and play in the region

You just need 20-30 million rubles. in year. Believe me, this is a tiny amount! In principle, SUEK has this money, and Leninsk will overcome at least 1/3 of this amount. Plus, a ticket to the stadium can be made paid (but not huge amounts … 50 rubles) + otributika, of course, this will not give much, but still. All envy from the administration of Leninsk and from the general director of Dawn, these are not dreams! THIS IS REALITY! Everyone wants the growth of football in Leninsk, at least the 3rd league, then we'll see, because our team has a huge potential!

I will answer the digital series decreasing towards zero: the ideal place for the new flagship of Kuzbass football is Leninsk-Kuznetsky.

Arguments:
1. The presence of football players of the required level in the city already today (under the conditions already mentioned).
These are: the entire squad of Zorya – 18-20 players, 10-12 players of today's RBM base, plus students from the fourth set as the nearest reserve. And it is very likely that Petrov, Nechaev, Shvab, Ovchinnikov will return for a new project. And if a player of the FNL level Mavrin also returns …
An important point about the topic of “locals”: ​​you don’t need to “buy” players for millions and you don’t have to pay 200 thousand each to the Youth Sports School that brought up the players …

2. The presence in the city of a large qualified group of coaches in the local football school for children and youth who have proven themselves in various leagues and educate players of the level of Sapogov, Mavrin, Dremin, Konshin, Nechaev, Petrov, etc. I would like to emphasize that all leading coaches will need guaranteed additional funding from the club's budget (good salary, equipment, money for trips of children's teams).

3. Availability of the minimum necessary infrastructure (taking into account the infrastructure of the city of Polysaevo – a gym, a SUEK dispensary with state-of-the-art equipment).

4. The presence of the most experienced personnel who have passed the 1st league: a doctor, a cameraman, drivers, etc.

5. Absence of competing financially expensive sports projects (volleyball and bandy in Kemerovo, hockey in Novokuznetsk).

6. A special football aura, traditions, fans, multifaceted support from former players … The excitement in the media and the football environment, the presence of cult names … Dawn is a name that is known and interesting to everyone.

7. The head office and main mines of the Kuzbass branch of SUEK, the largest coal company in Russia, are located in Leninsk. SUEK coal is constantly in demand abroad and in the domestic power industry market. Even the crisis of 2008 had no effect on the demand and almost nothing on the price. There is no better sponsor.
In this paramount issue, Leninsk is the clear favorite.

8. Effective football management capable of achieving impressive results with a minimum of funds. The same “dividing the budget into points scored”. In terms of the meager monetary value of one point scored, Leninsk had the most effective management in the 90s, in 2004-2007 in the exercise therapy and the 2nd league, and now both teams are playing decently with a meager budget.Perhaps in all three periods it was and is today the most “cheap glasses” in Russian football! Or maybe not only in Russian …
Here they can do without a lot of money.
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The coincidence of so many keystones allows us to confidently say that Leninsk is exactly the ideal place where, if desired, you can easily create the flagship of Kuzbass football again. The fact that it was already done here not so long ago …

This project is possible only in large cities of the region.

I will answer the veteran again. The sober view of the current reality is pleasing. It is well said that the infrastructure football pyramid without a team of masters, as without a top. It is also clear that altruism is now not in fashion and finances decide everything, or almost everything.
Unfortunately, people who have come to professional clubs are in a hurry to “live” and try to make a cut of investments in football right away, without postponing this pleasant procedure for tomorrow – suddenly it will not come. After all, the world of football state orders is so impatient and unstable.
But not everything is so gloomy and hopeless in the football economy of Kuzbass. In fact, the promotion of a young homegrown team in the 2nd league does not need so much time and money. Starting financing will not be much more than the estimates of leading LFL clubs.
Further through the first steps and image attractiveness of the project, sponsors will necessarily appear. It happened before. The main thing is that you need to collect the intelligent team of coaches and football managers, and not to disperse the strength and means to competing programs.

Is it really not clear that without proper financing there will never again be a Kuzbass of the 70s, nor dawn of the 90s? Now our football is in a deep crisis: in Kemerovo there is not even a team of the 3rd league, are about to withdraw from the FNL Novokuznetsk, On the verge of bankruptcy of the team of other large cities of Russia-Novosibirsk, Yaroslavl and others. The FNL championship did not be able to recruit 20 teams, before the start of the season Vladimir, Bryansk, Nab. Chelny, Nizh. Novgorod and this process, alas, only increases. It’s good that there are still schools of training young athletes, but then what? Units will fall into the teams of masters of other cities, the rest will find a different occupation. It will be unfinished. Altruism is altruism, the pages of history are turned upside down, ahead is a single, and today, a more more future … Alas …

Thank you so much, dear not a judge, for a competent and qualified comment! I absolutely agree with you: it is not permissible to correct the biography of our great dawn! The mention of those events and the author of the Dawn project (with its unconditional exclusive right to be called the founding father and the Zarya club itself, and the whole game and fan ideology, and real football boom in the city) was used as part of a partial partial An excursion to the football history of Leninsk, from which the history of the dawn is inseparable.We also will not allow the club's biography to be corrected and, moreover, to be rudely devalued, comparing it with the B class of the 60s…

Dear Veteran, I did not want to get involved in the controversy that arose after the cup disagreements between the parties. But the topic turned out to be much broader than fan bravado – who has a better team and traditions. Especially against the background of the general bending of Kuzbass football. As recently as yesterday at Planet Football, Yuri Lobatnev recalled with longing that bright football time, when five professional clubs represented our region on the Russian arena at once. It's sad to watch Kuzbass football tomorrow.
The Mezhdurechensk and Prokopyevsk options for maintaining football pants with suspenders are far from being the light at the end of the tunnel. For the last decade, Prokopyevsk has completely lost its own face: at one time it was Barnaul, another Omsk, now Kemerovo. Of course, the success of the current team will give some impetus to the development of football in the city, but its own school is clearly not enough to be self-sufficient with its own personnel. Individual surnames are the exception rather than the rule.
Mezhdurechensk is the most financially stable club in Kuzbass, has always been and will remain a Mecca for visitors, quite good, but as a rule, already played football players from all over Siberia. Run out of money or an influential boss, as Mr. Yakovlev will lose the desire to play football, and that's it. Mountain tourism will remain.
Having a little better orientation in the history of the Zorya club, I would like to explain, otherwise, over the years, some football experts will correct his biography in such a way that I will begin to doubt: was there a boy?
1. Assembled, promoted and already professional players from all over Siberia.
The first line-up of Zorya, which won the second league and advanced to the first buffer league, consisted of 8-9 graders recruited in 1987-88 in L-K UOR. These are Lemeshko, Bazhenov, Burdinsky, Kutilin, Shergin, Kholkin, Serbin, Semyonov, Morev, Ryndin, Toporov, Bychkovsky, Ozhigov and further a number of lesser-known surnames. Then the schoolchildren Yanotovsy, Lyange, who came after service in the army, Baryshev, pulled themselves up. Where did these players play besides the Leather Ball? By the way, it was at this tournament that they liked it. Yes, of course, the experienced “uncles” Bogatyrev and Bokovikov, who joined in 1992, played their role, but they no longer played the role of first violins in the team, but rather were playing coaches.
2. “Smertin and Kormiltsev were not eager to join Zarya.
In the last home game with Dynamo Barnaul, won 3-0 in 1992, eighteen-year-old Kormiltsev and Smertin looked good, periodically trying their hand at the main team. After a conversation with the famous coach V. Kaminsky, an agreement was reached on negotiations with Sergey Kormiltsev. A week later, he arrived in Leninsk with his father and signed a three-year contract on very modest conditions by today's standards (without any bonuses and lifting).We also will not allow the club's biography to be corrected and, moreover, to be rudely devalued, comparing it with the B class of the 60s…
Dear Veteran, I did not want to get involved in the controversy that arose after the cup disagreements between the parties. But the topic turned out to be much broader than fan bravado – who has a better team and traditions. Especially against the background of the general bending of Kuzbass football. As recently as yesterday at Planet Football, Yuri Lobatnev recalled with longing that bright football time, when five professional clubs represented our region on the Russian arena at once. It's sad to watch Kuzbass football tomorrow.
The Mezhdurechensk and Prokopyevsk options for maintaining football pants with suspenders are far from being the light at the end of the tunnel. For the last decade, Prokopyevsk has completely lost its own face: at one time it was Barnaul, another Omsk, now Kemerovo. Of course, the success of the current team will give some impetus to the development of football in the city, but its own school is clearly not enough to be self-sufficient with its own personnel. Individual surnames are the exception rather than the rule.
Mezhdurechensk is the most financially stable club in Kuzbass, has always been and will remain a Mecca for visitors, quite good, but as a rule, already played football players from all over Siberia. Run out of money or an influential boss, as Mr. Yakovlev will lose the desire to play football, and that's it. Mountain tourism will remain.

Having a little better orientation in the history of the Zorya club, I would like to explain, otherwise, over the years, some football experts will correct his biography in such a way that I will begin to doubt: was there a boy?
1. Assembled, promoted and already professional players from all over Siberia.
The first line-up of Zorya, which won the second league and advanced to the first buffer league, consisted of 8-9 graders recruited in 1987-88 in L-K UOR. These are Lemeshko, Bazhenov, Burdinsky, Kutilin, Shergin, Kholkin, Serbin, Semyonov, Morev, Ryndin, Toporov, Bychkovsky, Ozhigov and further a number of lesser-known surnames. Then the schoolchildren Yanotovsy, Lyange, who came after service in the army, Baryshev, pulled themselves up. Where did these players play besides the Leather Ball? By the way, it was at this tournament that they liked it. Yes, of course, the experienced “uncles” Bogatyrev and Bokovikov, who joined in 1992, played their role, but they no longer played the role of first violins in the team, but rather were playing coaches.
2. “Smertin and Kormiltsev were not eager to join Zarya.

In the last home game with Dynamo Barnaul, won 3-0 in 1992, eighteen-year-old Kormiltsev and Smertin looked good, periodically trying their hand at the main team. After a conversation with the famous coach V. Kaminsky, an agreement was reached on negotiations with Sergey Kormiltsev. A week later, he arrived in Leninsk with his father and signed a three-year contract on very modest conditions by today's standards (without any bonuses and lifting).Then the father of Alexei Smertin called and said that if there is interest in his son, then he will take him from the double of the Moscow Dynamo, where his older brother played, and bring him to Leninsk. And again a three-year contract on the same terms. These undeniably legendary players have fully worked out their contracts and even more, and still in their interviews recall the time spent at Zorya as one of the best in their career.
3. Super conditions in Zarya

This is one of the common myths that they try to explain the phenomenon of the rise and popularity of the club. The team always came with minimal compensation, or even without them, players who make a big name for themselves in it: Bogochev, Dzutsev, Musin, Vinogradov, Zakharov, Dzyubenko. For the first three seasons, the team modestly lived in the UOR, then for two years it was based on the 4th floor of the Zarya city hotel, and only then did it have a country base (a building in a pioneer camp) without football fields and sports grounds. There were bonuses for winning the second league, third place in the buffer league and reaching the first. These are several apartments for leading players and a Zhiguli fifth model from sponsors. The only thing that distinguished the club was that they never promised “golden” mountains and did not deceive the players. Hence the stability of the composition and low turnover of players.

P.S. No one wanted to hurt or even more offend. Each club has its own path and its own history, but when all Kuzbass football quietly comes to a standstill, then maybe the history of Zorya will tell you how to find a way out of it. Again, talented boys from 11 cities of the region are recruited for the fourth cycle. They play, learn and their potential is already evident today. You just need to have patience, the desire to invest not only in today, but also in tomorrow. When there is a system, traditions and continuity of generations, the result is confidently predicted. By the way, the most objective judge in any dispute is time, and today, the uncensored Internet. It is enough to go to the search engines, type in the names of clubs, surnames and it is easy to understand who is who.

All the dawn players work or study in full at serious universities. In the evening, after work they train, and sometimes after work they play official matches. So it was in the final: they played after the work shift and barely managed to come from Kemerovo from lectures to KemSU. This is one of the key factors in the final match. The teams were in advance in unequal conditions. As in the film Gladiator the emperor goes to the battle with a previously deadly wounded and already half -dead maximus. Yes, and traps in the form of tigers (judges) … protest on Mamaev … The final on the working day was just such an ugly and sad picture … One of the many spoons of the tar, minimizing the joy of winning the Cup under such circumstances.

I am convinced that if the current composition of the Dawn is transferred to conditions under which they do not need to think about anything except football (good salary all year round, food, winter and spring fees, participation in pre -season tournaments, medical support, restoration after games and T.P.), then the accounts that you write about will be directly opposite in our favor. And the players will have an incentive and the motive to progress. In addition, in the presence of the listed conditions listed in Leninsk, a certain approach to the formation of a managerial structure, almost all their strong players (except for Sapogov and Mavrin) will immediately return to Leninsk.

Speaking about the possibilities of Leninsk, I am confident and unconditionally imply that the potential of War, with his coaches, a doctor, infrastructure, will be fully involved. The leading players of Waura will be a good replenishment of today's dawn. What is not the team of the 2nd league?

Here's what potential is we talking about, and not about games with Shakhtar after a shift in the mine on Tuesdays or Fridays …

As a result of the ill -conceived “home blank”, players publicly confirmed that this victory in the Cup final is the most valuable and memorable. That is, this year the victory over the “dawn” in the Cup is more valuable, significant and more significant than their winnings in the last year’s Cup at Shakhtar.It's about something.

Another response of the players to the theme of Kemerovo football: visitors play only for money. There is no money – we packed our bags and left. And they play for their hometown, for their comrades, for the coach … Evidence for this is very often. Shakhtar-2 is not one of these, by any chance? In the same Shakhtar, one can clearly see how sincerely the local coach, the head of the team, the administrator have sincerely worried about the team in recent years…

The 21st century, why talk about common truths, I know perfectly well what the Zorya team was for its players and fans, I myself watched more than one match of those years. But I very much doubt that the minimum money will appear now for an application to the 2nd Zorya will be able to perform successfully there. She has been fighting at the regional level for several years and even there she can’t become the undisputed leader of the region, and what can we say about the 2nd league. – the struggle for survival and nothing more. There are no successful teams in practice that achieve something only with players from one city and never will. Shakhtar has chosen a more correct direction in work – the squad is formed both from visiting players of a good level and from local, this is world practice. Now Shakhtar plays on several fronts, almost every 2-3 days, in the 3rd league it is among the leaders, in the Siberian Cup it has already reached the final, in the Kuzbass Championship it is the undisputed leader who has not lost a single point and defeated twice Zarya and Kuzbass Cup, already won. And what has Zarya achieved in recent years? NOTHING! Except for getting into the winners of the regional championship. So all you have to do is talk about past successes of Zarya in the 90s and about current talented players and coaches, by the way , so far nothing has been achieved.

Cup of Russia, 1/8 finals.

CSKA (Moscow) – Zorya (Leninsk-Kuznetsky) 0:0 p.7:8.

16 April. Moscow. Stadium Dynamo. 10 degrees. From 91 min. — el. lighting. 3500 spectators (capacity 51000).

Judges: N. Levnikov – 8.7, A. Rumyantsev, V. Lebedev (all – St. Petersburg). Inspector: V.Deryabin (Moscow).

CSKA: Novosadov, Movsesyan (Tsaplin, 86), Lobzhanidze, Bokov, Shutov (Grishin, 91), Shustikov, Khomukha, Ulyanov (Semshov, 24), Minko (c), Kulik, Gerasimov.

Zarya: Tumilovich, Momotov, Baryshev, Musin, Yanotovsky, Smertin, Bogochev, Dzutsev, Kirillov, Petrinsky (Yarkin, 109), Toporov.

Penalties: 1:0 Minko, 1:1 Momotov, 2:1 Grishin, 2:2 Yarkin, 2:2 Bokov (bar), 2:2 Musin (goalkeeper), 3:2 Khomukha, 3:3 Toporov, 4: 3 Kulik, 4:4 Yanotovsky, 5:4 Gerasimov, 5:5 Kirillov, 6:5 Tsaplin, 6:6 Baryshev, 7:6 Lobzhanidze, 7:7 Smertin, 7:7 Shustikov (goalkeeper), 7:8 Bogochev .

Booked: Dzutsev (37), Momotov (38), Movsesyan (49, non-disc.), Kirillov (94).

Removed: Dzutsev (108).
Zorya (Leninsk-Kuznetsky) – Dynamo (Moscow) 0:2 (0:1). Cup of Russia, 1/4 finals.
May 6, 1997. 18:00. Leninsk-Kuznetsky. Shakhtar Stadium. Clear, 17 degrees. 11000 spectators.
Judges: T. Bezubyak, E. Shushpanov, A. Rumyantsev (all from St. Petersburg).
Zorya: Tumilovich (k), Momotov, Epurash (Dzutsev, 46), Musin, Yanotovsky, Smertin, Kuksov (Yarkin, 46), Dzyubenko, Kirillov, Petrinsky, Toporov (Eflov, 80).
Dynamo: Smetanin (k), Yakhimovich, Kovtun, Ostrovsky (Kulchiy, 54), Shtanyuk, Kobelev, Grishin, Skokov (Tochilin, 62), Gusev (Kutsenko, 59), Nekrasov, Terekhin.
Goals: 0:1 Kobelev (18), 0:2 Kulchy (70).
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Warnings: Kuksov (5, group game), Kovtun (12, group game), Shtanyuk (37, group game), Kirillov (68, group game), Tumilovich (76, non-disc. pov.), Yakhimovich ( 86, gr. game), Kutsenko (89, gr. game).
Yes, the topic of dividing cities into “football-non-football” is discussed by young people and a teenager of primary school age “Vlad”. And this is their right… It doesn't matter to me…

About who has “deeper roots” – it doesn’t matter.

The main thing is how high the tree grew from these roots. This is the main point, that the heights are disproportionately different. And most importantly, how the tree bears fruit today, and not 60 years ago.
And we are talking about the fact that the ceilings are different in height … It is very good that in Prokopyevsk there was a class B .
Unfortunately, my knowledge of history does not allow me to know which cities played in the class B respected by me and came to Prokopyevsk.

And St. Petersburg's Zenit came to Leninsk with Sadyrin, Torpedo Moscow with Valentin Ivanov, Rostselmash with Loskov, Maslov, Balakhnin, Uralan, Sokol, Shinnik, Kuban, Baltika with Prudnikov at the gate, Lada Tolyatti, Chernomorets Novorossiysk, Fakel, Asmaral, Ocean, Luch, Kamyshin, Maykop, Grozny, Smolensk, Tula, etc., etc.The KAMAZ was beaten in the Cup, in 1/8 in Moscow CSKA with the main composition, which a week before in the Champions League playoffs beat 3: 2 Barcelona on the Nou KAP. On the semifinals in Leninsk, along with the Dynamo Champions League (as part of Kobelev, Smetanin, Kovtun, Kulchin, Tochilin, etc.), N.A. personally came to Tolstoy. Agree, dear Veteran, there is the difference between the teams from the Champions League, playing on the eve of Barcelona and Roma, with the “semifinal bullet for access to class“ a ”from class“ b ”…
And so that it makes no sense for us to “drown the water in a mortar” come to Sergey Toporov and ask what is “dawn” for him, was there a state of mind and pleasure from football than in Leninsk and is there a stronger nostalgia … Ask Valery Langa, what kind of team it was in those years than she was for the guys playing in it, how many “football artists” in it, such as today's Langa. And how she looked with her special style against the backdrop of “awnings” from the flanks and just “awnings” at least from where the ball is subsequently pushing into the gate, against the background of the general style of “Bey-Bogi” …
With that own coaching, playing, managerial football potential in Leninsk, in the case of allocating the necessary money for football – go to the second division literally at least today. It will be necessary for a few hours to solve internal organizational issues … We have everything saved and is waiting in the wings …
And there will be a minimum of 2005 and 2007, when we played our own (including Karpov, Kostenko, Kozlov, Bychkovsky). Only in 2006, the talented coach Seroshtan allowed the team from Barnaul and Omsk players to go around us. Even then, for three years, the score for seasons 2: 1 in favor of Leninsk.
21st century is very bad that you “do not have the honor to know what class B is. And this is, by the way, the history of Soviet-Russian football. To go ahead you need to know the story, always! -How the current division. In the 60s, in Prokopyevsk, there was a team of masters in which not only visitors always played, but alsoLocal pupils, the stadium of the Shakhtar almost always filled to capacity, and at that time it was 15,000 spectators. In the late 60s, when Shakhtar played at home a semi-final bullet for access to class A, it generally came to 20,000 spectators. This is to the fact that the fact that The roots of the development of football in Prokopyevsk are much deeper than in Leninsk. And you should not invent that Smintin, Kormiltsev, etc. were eager to play for dawn, just then super-conditions were created in Leninsk to prepare the team, incommensurable with the capabilities of other cities, so they are also They were forced to go to Leninsk, as they were invited there on very good conditions, and the best and almost ready-made football players. We should not figure out that they became so in Leninsk, I repeat, they were already ready-made cool players, most of them are before dawn We have already played many matches for other professional clubs. I do not want to say that in Leninsk football is at zero, but also to say that Prokopyevsk with its long -term football traditions is categorically a non -football city it is forbidden.

Mavrin Vasily is a player of the FNL level or a minimum of the 2nd division. They invited many times. Just the talented guy chose his way in football.

In today's composition “Dremin”: Dremin, Soenko and Kozhekin won everything in the exercise therapy and in the region. Konshin, Amlyanov, Pushkin, Kusakin, Golovko, Mironov, Cherkashin, Salikhov, Mamaev, Garayev, Fomin, Sipaev – players, according to talent capable of playing both in the exercise therapy and in the 2nd division.

And most importantly: that's all, today and tomorrow. And the list of specialist coaches (I will add to him Kutilina A.B., Eflova D.N.)-this is the “Lenin school” and people who give good results today.

In 1997, the Leninsk-Kuznechanin Dmitry Eflov played in the 1/4 finals of the Russian Cup against Dynamo. The team already had local Dmitry Ovchinnikov, Yuri Shvab.

What is “class B”-I have no honor to know, but players in the 1st League of the country in the 60s in Novosibirsk are not the Premier League and the second national team in our time …

Toporov’s talent was revealed precisely in Leninsk, as well as the talent of several dozens of unknown football players before their arrival in Leninsk to S.N. Vasyutin.

Smertin, Kormiltsev, Yanotovsky, Musin, Morev, Tumilovich and others (including Valery Lyanga respected in Leninsk). They considered it necessary at a certain stage of his career to play in the Vasyutin team in Leninsk. It was in Leninsk that eminent clubs, eminent players, legendary coaches came to play at the local stadium with the local “Ruga” … There was an exchange of players, comrade. Games, fees with the team of the great Beskov. Well, is it correct at least some comparison with a certain class “B”?

“Shakhtar -2”, I don’t argue, a good team, plus good players from Prokopyevsk play for Kiselevsk. But from Leninsk – firm players of the foundations of clubs of LFK Schwab, Ovchinnikov, Petrov. There is still Nechaev. Well, if you saw the Cup final, especially the first 20 minutes – this is 99 percent Lenin guys!
Who is trying to call Prokopyevsk non-football? Back in the distant 60s, when Leninsk was still really dreamed of Leninsk, the Prokopans played the championship of the Union in class B, and their pupils of Cheremnov, Khlebnikov, Ryashin, Ryashin, played for Novosibirsk and Kemerovo residents in 1 -i the Union League. I played several seasons in the 1st Russian League, gathered the best pupils from other cities of Siberia, they simply did not have any of their own! Who was the best scorer then? Correctly Procopucian Toporov! Now the Shakhtar does not have so much money, otherwise he would have played in the 2nd league for a long time. And local good football players have always been and is there! Look how in the 1st Regional League he plays in the South Shakhter-2 zone and you will understand a lot at once. Of course, the most thing is the most The football city in the region is Kemerovo, but in the 2nd-3rd places of Novokuznetsk and Prokopans, and even after them, in some distance, Mezhdurechensk and Leninsk.

The “reputation” of the inspector is well known to everyone … Well, his maximum assessment of the chief “judge” says everything, those who are versed in football. “Hand is a hand …” or “Raven is a crow …”. They don’t even try to hide, veil, disguise it … But interesting: Judge Lapkin wants to have the same reputation as the inspector?

In the second half, in addition to the demolition of Amelianov in the penalty area, there was also the game of the player of Shakhtar in his penalty …

Vlad, wrote such stupidity! You were generally at the match.
Was you ?? There were 1,500 there were 800-1000 from strength.

Own you were not 1500 but 3500 on the game

We are waiting for the third league when it will be.

Sueka, even corrupt judges, did not help, appointing the left penalties, putting the floor of the command on yellow cards, without setting a 100% penalty. Even if with such a bored refereeing, the dawn cannot win then this shame.
…….. Leninsk is not a football city, even for the final match, they could not fill the stadium at least half.

Judges rags !! Why go out if you are afraid to whistle!

Thanks to Danila Bagrov for the comment! Our school! Our football players! Our town! Dawn forward.
Yar:

As for Dirgen, which you think everywhere lost and which they crumbled.
1. For the venue for the final match, there is a serious struggle every year. Who wins the struggle, he accepts the finale. Yar, where the final was held this time.
2. Dyrgen defeated Mamaev’s case. The episode with a funny red card is considered. The episode and actions of the judge are evaluated. Further: the decision is that Mamaev can play eat and no one has officially canceled it. Go to the team’s website from your hometown and read the protest. This protest is a recognition of Dyrgen’s victory. And then there was what they already wrote about here – I said. We have already touched on the topic of concepts. And what is the regulation in comparison with the “concepts” … and the actions of the protesters are not a sign of uncertainty and nervousness before the finale! And even the fact that the opponent officially showed his uncertainty, is it not the victory of Dirgen.
3. That the finale was played on a weekday (at least one final in the world is played on a weekday.) – this is Dirgen’s loss, since all the players work and study in serious universities in the universities, Kemerovo, Tomsk …
Dyrgen is not embarrassed by the grin of illiterate Mosek, openly fights such an absurdity, but the attitude to such a tournament as the Kuzbass Cup is such that it can be carried out in such a way, on the case, on a weekday. Then Dyrgen lost, but the one who won after having achieved the everyday finals, thereby, by misunderstanding, additionally devalued the significance of victory in the Cup.
4. According to the refereeing of the final – unfortunately, nothing can be done about it in Russia yet. We judge like in Nalchik. But answer honestly, Yar, you would be at least a little happy if, for example, your “UR” won the Cup with such refereeing and, in general, such a price, as it was yesterday. The most important thing is that the guys from Kemerovo and Lyange and Shvab who play with them do not need such help. They, in the majority, win these cups and championships for five to seven years in a row. They won bronze in exercise therapy for three years in a row. The Kemerovo football school, together with the Novokuznetsk one, are the best football schools in Kuzbass. They are undoubtedly good players and they did not ask the referees for anything. But, nevertheless, such refereeing greatly devalued their victory.
Now the facts about what kind of refereeing is in question.
You, Yar, saw the beginning. What Zorya did with the finalist of the Siberian Cup and one of the leaders of the Siberian Championship, you saw. You saw the reaction of the players themselves and some representatives of the bench. But the judges returned the Kemerovo players to the game. Invented free kick near the penalty area of ​​Dawn, not showing three or four iron yellow for disrupting attacks and for grabbing T-shirts. And the second goal against Zorya came after a ridiculous throw-in. Would you like, Yar, that the players of UR would throw like that from out of bounds? Wouldn't you be ashamed? It's all in the first half. And in the second there was a penalty on Amelyanov, but the referee… There was an exit of the Kemerovo goalkeeper three steps outside the penalty area with the ball in his hands. Bokovoy Nadymov saw this, but instead of raising the flag and fixing a free kick 17 meters from the goal, he began to show the Kemerovo resident with his hands – don’t do it again, don’t make mistakes, don’t be outrageous. And in the last 20 minutes, the referee generally stopped paying attention to pushes, jumping to the feet forward with two straight legs, grabs with his hands, elbows to the chest … And even Zidane, with his authority, the judge did not hesitate to remove when he butted Materazzi …

Therefore, Yar, we are the moral winners of the final.
We have players from our football school plus Stanislav Garaev.This is the school that gave the player of the Premier League and the Second, so far, the Russian Team Alexei Sapogov. Someone stood next to such a height of our school. Your hometown. Who.

We have coaches:

Verchuk A.D. (first coach of Sapogov, Konshin, Nechaev, Amelyanov, Patrakova Vit.),